# FAQ: evidence

## Is investing safe and does it give a reliable long-term interest?

Yes, investing is safe and gives a reliable interest, but only** when two conditions are met**:

- You invest with a
**diversified**portfolio

For example, by investing in investment funds that cover the ‘market as a whole’, which means that you invest in ALL companies that are registered at a stock exchange). - You invest with a
**long investment horizon**

At least 20 years (‘investment horizon’ means how long you plan to hold the stocks). In 150 years of stock market history, there has never been a period of 25 years or longer during which the stock market as a whole made a loss, no matter on which day you started investing (so even in the periods that include the major stock crash of the 1930s)!

## How do we know that investing is safe and gives a reliable interest when these conditions are met? What evidence is there for it?

We know this because of **two reasons**.

First, extensive stock market data are available from the past 150 years, among others a dataset compiled by Nobel Prize winner Robert R. Shiller. Two conclusions follow from these data:

- The longer you invest, the smaller the deviations from the average interest are, so the safer your investment is.
- The long-term average interest rate is 7.0% per year. This number is already corrected for inflation; uncorrected it is a higher, 9.1%.

Second, this is how our economy works. Economic theory dictates that in capitalism, you can earn ‘rewards’ (i.e., money) for two things: labor and capital. With labor the reward is a wage. With capital, the reward is profit. It is logical that lending out capital (which is what investing is) over long periods of time pays off on average. Otherwise, no one would lend out money or invest anylonger and the capitalist system would no longer work.

It is logical that investing over long periods of time pays off on average: this is how our economy works.

## Can you give some more explanation of this available evidence?

Yes, with pleasure, because this evidence base is really important to us at Give for Good. The images below provide further insight into the data by Robert R. Shiller we introduced above. They were made using the data in this file, which builds on the dataset compiled by Shiller.

The images show the average annual return that you would have had if you invested in the market as a whole. Each image shows this for a different set of investment periods (the ‘investment period’ is how long you have actually held the stocks, if the period is in the past):

- Figure 1 for investment periods of 1, 2 and 5 years
- Figure 2 for periods of 5, 10 and 25 years
- Figure 3 for periods of 25, 50 and 100 years

Source for these three graphs: data build upon Robert R. Shiller, Stock Market Data Used in “Irrational Exuberance” Princeton University Press, 2000, 2005, 2015, updated data, available from the Department of Economics at Yale university. Give for Good’s adaptations can be downloaded here.

The lines are split into three graphs, as opposed to putting them all in one graph, to improve the visualization. ‘5 years’ and ’25 years’ are both in two graphs on purpose – we’ll get to that later.

The first thing to note from these three graphs is their x-axes. They all start in 1871. This is because from this year onwards, we have good stock data available. The lines are ‘rolling averages’, meaning that every month a new average was calculated for the 1, 2, 5, 10, 25, 50 or 100 years preceding it. That is why the larger the investment period, the later the line starts in the graph. The graphs include analysis of 1794 months in total between January 1871 and June 2020.

Secondly, note that the** average annual interest in the past 150 years is 7.0%**. Again, this is ‘real return’, meaning it is already corrected for inflation. The average uncorrected return is higher, 9.1% (the average inflation per year was 2.1%).

Thirdly, note that as the investment period gets bigger, the variance (‘variance’ means how much the line deviates from its average) around the average interest gets smaller (**notice how different the y-axes are in the 3 graphs**). If you invested for 1 year, if you started in precisely the right month, you would have made an interest of 151.3% (!). If you started in the worst month, you would have made -58.1% (meaning you lost 58.1% per year). Depending on the month and year in which you started to invest, you could get really lucky or unlucky. However, as the investment period grows, these numbers get smaller. With 5 years they are already 33.3% and -13.2%, with 10 years 20.0% and -5.9%, and so on.

This is why ‘5 years’ and ’25 years’ are both in two graphs: to visualize the decrease in the variance as the investment period gets bigger. The line with the smallest variance in the first graph (investment period of 5 years) is the same as the the line in the second graph with the largest variance! And this goes the same for the line with the smallest variance in the second graph (investment period of 25 years): it is the same as the line with the highest variance in the third graph. This shows the big differences between the variance for small and long investment periods. So the conclusion from all this is: **the longer the investment period, the smaller the variance around the average interest**.

Another way to visualize this is to take these best and worst average annual interests in history for each investment period. When you do that, you get the bar chart here below.

**Note that for 21-, 25-, 50- and 100-year investment periods, regardless of the month and year in which you started to invest, the average annual return was ALWAYS positive.** Source: Data build upon Robert R. Shiller, Stock Market Data Used in “Irrational Exuberance” Princeton University Press, 2000, 2005, 2015, updated data, available from the Department of Economics at Yale university. Give for Good’s adaptations can be downloaded here.

Note that there has not been a single (!) investment period of 21 years or more since 1871 — out of 1794 periods that were analysed, each starting in a different month — during which the average real return per year on the stock market as a whole was less than 0. This also matches with the line graph for this investment period above – it never dips below 0. If you had huge bad luck and you started investing in the worst month, you still had a positive return every year of 0.4% on average. If you were lucky, and you started out in the best possible year, you achieved a return every year of 12.9% on average.

So, the conclusion of all this data is: **as long as you invest as diversified as possible (in the market as a whole) and have an investment horizon of more than 25 years, historically, investing in stocks is safe and gives an average return of 7.0% per year on average**. The same calculations can be done for regular savings, this is also safe historically, but gives only an average return of 2.3% per year.

There has not been a single (!) investment period of 21 years or more since 1871 during which the average real return per year was less than 0.